Thacker’s Formula – Other Peyronie’s Treatment Questions
Thacker’s formula and other Peyronie’s disease treatment questions
Every now and then someone emails a question to me about Thacker’s formula. This legendary Peyronie’s treatment – called Thacker’s formula because of the Dr. Thacker who is said to have created it – uses Castor oil, DMSO and apple cider vinegar. Although I know the exact proportions to make this Peyronie’s treatment I will now give this information here because I cannot promote its use.
Along a similar line, I am sometimes asked if I know anything about an herbal Peyronie’s disease treatment (ginkgo biloba, echinacea), a micronutrient (Coenzyme Q, EPA), or an old home remedy (garlic, Castor oil, olive oil) that might be used as a Peyronie’s disease cure. They want to know what I would think about using the Thacker’s formula or other treatment, and why does this treatment not appear in the PDI lineup of therapies?
In order for any therapy or procedure to be included in the PDI lineup of 14 potential Peyronie’s treatments, it has to have either been applied specifically in treatment of PD in a series of scientific studies and proven at least 50% effective in several trials (even though it might have done poorly in others), or it must have demonstrated good success and acceptance within the scientific community for treatment of other unrelated health problems (acupuncture and homeopathy). With this simple criterion we establish some level of scientific credibility for those therapies in our PDI lineup, and further increase the possible effectiveness of therapy when several of these are united in a synergistic program of care.
There are probably some really good Peyronie’s disease treatment ideas that that could be actually very effective. But who among us wants to waste his time, effort, energy, money, and most importantly, his opportunity to get over his Peyronie’s disease by experimenting with theories that have absolutely no proven ability to influence the body to promote healing? I did not want to waste my time on theories of questionable merit, when I knew there were many available that had already achieved some level of success. This last group seemed to be a better place to look for answers, than chasing unproven ideas.
Edgar Cayce’s castor oil pack might indeed be an effective Peyronies’ disease treatment, but for one reason or another it has not been subjected to even minimal scrutiny for PD. The goal of recovering from Peyronies is too great to use an untried treatment, when there are so many others of higher credibility and logic to work with.
Thacker’s formula does not meet Peyronie’s treatment guidelines
PDI was started on the basis of using treatments of some level of known and proven merit, and uses this standard today to determine what additions will be recommended and used in future therapy plans. Rumors, stories, and speculation you read about on a Peyronie’s forum are not enough. Alternative Medicine employs early science to see through the maze of superstition and learn the truth of what may or may not work to regain health. These are the principles used to formulate the current Peyronie’s disease treatment strategies you have learned about. We are already working on the outer rim of established medical practice, but we must be careful to not go too far away from common sense and valuable scientific information that will help us achieve our health goals.
Usually, my suggestion for someone who wants to use such a new Peyronie’s treatment is to do it in combination with several other known and better proven therapies already in the Peyronie’s Disease Institute lineup. This way there is back-up treatment, and the total effort will create a therapeutic synergy. Never is it suggested to use only the one therapy of any type, proven or unproven.
So, if you are just adding in an extra type of therapy because you read about it on a Peyronie’s forum, I say, all the more power to your curiosity and sense of adventure, but please do not have that constitute the majority of what you do for yourself.
Try not to become so desperate that you grab at straws, and although I cannot be certain, I think that Thacker’s formula falls into that category. While there might not be any harm in using it, and in fact it might have some therapeutic value, I cannot endorse the use of Thacker’s formula because it is essentially untested and unproven in any meaningful way. There is a lot of good information about sensible Peyronie’s disease treatment, that have had good results in research testing, that I can offer if you need help with your rehabilitation program.
Peyronie’s disease treatment question
Common question about Peyronie’s treatment
Every now and then someone emails a question to me about an herbal Peyronie’s disease treatment (ginkgo biloba, echinacea), a micronutrient (coenzyme Q, EPA), or an old home remedy (garlic, castor oil, olive oil) that might be used as a Peyronie’s disease cure. Along a similar line, I am sometimes asked if I know anything about a legendary Peyronie’s treatment known as Thacker’s formula, what I would think about using the treatment, and why does this treatment not appear in the PDI lineup of therapies?
In order for any therapy or procedure to be included in the PDI lineup of 14 potential Peyronie’s treatments, it has to have either been applied specifically in treatment of PD in a series of scientific studies and proven at least 50% effective in several trials (even though it might have done poorly in others), or it must have demonstrated good success and acceptance within the scientific community for treatment of other unrelated health problems (acupuncture and homeopathy). With this simple criterion we establish some level of scientific credibility for those therapies in our PDI lineup, and further increase the possible effectiveness of therapy when several of these are united in a synergistic program of care.
There are probably some really good Peyronie’s disease treatment ideas that that could be actually very effective. But who among us wants to waste his time, effort, energy, money, and most importantly, his opportunity to get over his Peyronie’s disease by experimenting with theories that have absolutely no proven ability to influence the body to promote healing? I did not want to waste my time on theories of questionable merit, when I knew there were many available that had already achieved some level of success. This last group seemed to be a better place to look for answers, than chasing unproven ideas.
Edgar Cayce’s castor oil pack might indeed be an effective Peyronies’ disease treatment, but for one reason or another it has not been subjected to even minimal scrutiny for PD. The goal of recovering from Peyronies is too great to use an untried treatment, when there are so many others of higher credibility and logic to work with.
PDI was started on the basis of using treatments of some level of known and proven merit, and uses this standard today to determine what additions will be recommended and used in future therapy plans. Rumors, stories, and speculation you read about on a Peyronie’s forum is not enough. Alternative Medicine employs early science to see through the maze of superstition and learn the truth of what may or may not work to regain health. These are the principles used to formulate the current Peyronie’s disease treatment strategies you have learned about. We are already working on the outer rim of established medical practice, but we must be careful to not go too far away from common sense and valuable scientific information that will help us achieve our health goals.
Usually, my suggestion for someone who wants to use such a new Peyronie’s treatment is to do it in combination with several other known and better proven therapies already in the PDI lineup. This way there is back-up treatment, and the total effort will create a therapeutic synergy. Never is it suggested to use only the one therapy of any type, proven or unproven.
So, if you are just adding in an extra type of therapy because you read about it on a Peyronie’s forum, I say, all the more power to your curiosity and sense of adventure, but please do not have that constitute the majority of what you do for yourself.
Try not to become so desperate that you grab at straws. There is a lot of good information about sensible Peyronie’s disease treatment I can offer if you need help with your rehabilitation program.
Peyronie’s disease treatment question
Peyronie’s treatment that are not mainstream
Every now and then someone emails a question to me about an herbal Peyronie’s disease treatment (ginkgo biloba, echinacea), a micronutrient (coenzyme Q, EPA), and old standby like vitamin E, or an old home remedy (garlic, Castor oil, olive oil) that might be used as a Peyronie’s disease cure. Along a similar line, I am sometimes asked if I know anything about a legendary Peyronie’s treatment known as Thacker’s formula, what I would think about using the treatment, and why does this treatment not appear in the PDI lineup of therapies?
How is a Peyronie’s treatment method selected by PDI?
In order for any therapy or procedure to be included in the PDI lineup of 14 potential Peyronie’s treatments, it has to have either been applied specifically in treatment of PD in a series of scientific studies and proven at least 50% effective in several trials (even though it might have done poorly in others), or it must have demonstrated good success and acceptance within the scientific community for treatment of other unrelated health problems (acupuncture and homeopathy). With this simple criterion we establish some level of scientific credibility for those therapies in our PDI lineup, and further increase the possible effectiveness of therapy when several of these are united in a synergistic program of care.
There are probably some really good Peyronie’s disease treatment ideas that that could be actually very effective. But who among us wants to waste his time, effort, energy, money, and most importantly, his opportunity to get over his Peyronie’s disease by experimenting with theories that have absolutely no proven ability to influence the body to promote healing? I did not want to waste my time on theories of questionable merit, when I knew there were many available that had already achieved some level of success. This last group seemed to be a better place to look for answers, than chasing unproven ideas.
Edgar Cayce’s castor oil pack might indeed be an effective Peyronies’ disease treatment, but for one reason or another it has not been subjected to even minimal scrutiny for PD. The goal of recovering from Peyronies is too great to use an untried treatment, when there are so many others of higher credibility and logic to work with.
PDI was started on the basis of using treatments of some level of known and proven merit, and uses this standard today to determine what additions will be recommended and used in future therapy plans. Rumors, stories, and speculation you read about on a Peyronie’s forum is not enough. Alternative Medicine employs early science to see through the maze of superstition and learn the truth of what may or may not work to regain health. These are the principles used to formulate the current Peyronie’s disease treatment strategies you have learned about. We are already working on the outer rim of established medical practice, but we must be careful to not go too far away from common sense and valuable scientific information that will help us achieve our health goals.
Usually, my suggestion for someone who wants to use such a new Peyronie’s treatment is to do it in combination with several other known and better proven therapies already in the PDI lineup. This way there is back-up treatment, and the total effort will create a therapeutic synergy. Never is it suggested to use only the one therapy of any type, proven or unproven.
So, if you are just adding in an extra type of therapy because you read about it on a Peyronie’s forum, I say, all the more power to your curiosity and sense of adventure, but please do not have that constitute the majority of what you do for yourself.
Try not to become so desperate that you grab at straws. There is a lot of good information about sensible Peyronie’s disease treatment I can offer if you need help with your rehabilitation program.
Peyronie’s treatment, vitamin E, PABA and U.S. government
Vitamin E and PABA Used for Peyronie’s Treatment
Here is interesting vitamin E, PABA and Peyronie’s treatment information from the National Kidney and Urologic Diseases Information Clearinghouse, an important arm of the prestigious National Institute of Health, found at http://kidney.niddk.nih.gov /Kudiseases/pubs/peyronie/index.htm
This information about Peyronie’s treatment and vitamin E is not exactly new, because frankly, there is not much that is new in the search for a Peyronies cure. Even so, what makes this section worth reading is that it is interesting and immensely informative in a different way. What is important to know about Peyronies treatment from a medical standpoint is not what is revealed, but what is not mentioned about Peyronie’s treatment – in this case concerning the use of vitamin E.
This following paragraph is copied under the NIH’s discussion of “Experimental Peyronie’s Treatments”:
“Some researchers have given vitamin E orally to men with Peyronie’s disease in small-scale studies and have reported improvements. Yet, no controlled studies have established the effectiveness of vitamin E therapy. Similar inconclusive success has been attributed to oral application of para-aminobenzoate [PABA], a substance belonging to the family of B-complex molecules.”
It is important to know that this is as far as the discussion concerning the use of vitamin E and PABA goes in this government article. It reports that “small-scale studies…have reported improvements. Yet, no controlled studies have established the effectiveness of vitamin E therapy.” So, if there was some improvement noted when vitamin E and PABA were used in Peyronie’s treatment, exactly why have there been no additional controlled studies conducted to prove or disprove that these early initial positive reports were factual? If it looked like these two experimental, but natural, non-drug Peyronie’s treatments were helpful, how can it be that no further testing has been done in this direction?
Isn’t the drug industry, or the AMA, or the government, or some private research group out there supposed to be interested in finding a Peyronie’s cure? If some natural Peyronie’s therapy like PABA or vitamin E showed some initial promise, why has no one looked into it further? If something comes along that is naturally occurring, easy and inexpensive to produce, safe to take compared to drugs, and readily available in the marketplace, and happens to look like it could help men with Peyronie’s disease, why has it not been investigated further? Why, indeed!
Vitamin E as a Peyronie’s treatment, or not
The answer to this natural question is found in the second sentence, in which it is mentioned, “no controlled studies have established the effectiveness of vitamin E therapy.” This means that without these additional higher-level controlled studies, the effectiveness of vitamin E and PABA remain conveniently unproven. Therefore, vitamin E and PABA remain only at the experimental forever. Exactly where the drug industry wants them to remain. So long as they continue to ignore vitamin E – to not give it a legitimate opportunity to prove or disprove it’s value to assist in Peyronie’s treatment – the medical community and the drug industry can correctly say it is “unproven.” This keeps vitamin E, and PABA, and other Alternative Medicine therapies out in the cold, where they would like them to remain.
It appears that the drug industry does not want to know if Peyronie’s disease can be treated with vitamin E. If it were known that vitamin E, or PABA, or the PDI treatment concept of synergistic use of multiple Alternative Medicine therapies, are actually effective Peyronie’s treatments, then the entire argument against their use would crumble. No one has stepped forward to conduct controlled studies because of fear that vitamin E, or PABA, might actually help the body heal the Peyronies plaque.
So long as the necessary tests are withheld, it is perfectly honest and legitimate to say that these natural therapies are “not proven” by controlled research. This is a great discussion stopper, isn’t it? Yet, no one goes the next step to ask, “And, exactly why have these necessary controlled studies not been performed in view of the small-scale studies that indicated these simple measures were effective? Why the delay? Why the lack of interest?”
Well, I guess we all know, and it should not surprise anyone, that the answer is the importance of profit over humanitarian interests. It is unfortunate but apparently true, since I have found no reasonable answer to explain why this testing has not been conducted. You can assure that if small-scale testing of a new drug showed the same improvement, that vast sums of additional funding would be forthcoming for controlled studies. In this way, once that new drug could be proved or disproved, its march to the marketplace and profitability would be hastened.
Lastly, if you think the use of vitamin E or PABA might not be a reasonable kind of therapy to use because they are “unproven,” now you understand that this state of being unproven is a convenient strategy of those who help themselves more than they want to help you.
Perhaps this will help you to understand, and feel differently about, the use of vitamin E, PABA, and the rest of the Peyronie’s Disease Institute program to treat this male scourge. For more information about the use of vitamin E in the treatment of Peyronie’s disease, go to Vitamin E, and to learn about the use of PABA in the treatment of Peyronie’s disease, go to PABA.
This is why it is necessary for each man to look out for himself and become the master of his own Peyronie’s treatment, since there is no one as interested in your welfare as you – and the Peyronie’s Disease Institute.